216 – Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE

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216 - Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE
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This is the Liz Pelly interview for the real heads!! We have a (perhaps brutally) honest discussion about the state of DIY and our extractive relationship with big tech. How do we untangle? Since Silent Barn times we’ve been researching, organizing, and building alternatives. We outline some of them in a fruitful discussion of Liz’s new book outlining the many destructive tendrils of Spotify and the pitfalls of music under capitalism at large. Join UMAW!

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Liz on the end of Silent Barn: https://logicmag.io/play/the-antisocial-network/

Previous Liz ep: https://artandlaborpodcast.com/podcast/episode-114-music-and-labor-2-with-liz-pelly-and-david-turner/

178 – Music & Labor Penny Fractions Panel w/ David Turner, Joey La Neve DeFrancesco, and Phillip Golub

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178 - Music & Labor Penny Fractions Panel w/ David Turner, Joey La Neve DeFrancesco, and Phillip Golub
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OK opens this panel by accosting the Nowadays crowd, a necessary struggle session to ground the conversation physically to art venues’ position to PR, finance, and real estate. We then discuss strategies and wins from music worker organizing with members of Union of Musicians and Allied Workers and Music Workers Alliance. We are honored to be in the Penny Fractions family, congratulations to David for 5 amazing years of critical research on the music industries. Support him here. For the second half of the evening, which discussed music streaming with Liz Pelly and Cherie Hu, follow the Money 4 Podcast.

If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor atartandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Also! Tell a chill friend about us?? Write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!

Joey in Jacobin: https://jacobin.com/2022/03/1940s-musicians-strike-american-federations-of-musicians-afm-labels-streaming

David’s newest on recession: https://pennyfractions.ghost.io/music-industry-recession-part-2/

157 – Tim Epic’s Bandcamp w/ David Turner

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157 - Tim Epic's Bandcamp w/ David Turner
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Music business criticism expert, creator of the fantastic Penny Fractions newsletter, and honorary co-host David Turner is back to discuss the depressing merger of Bandcamp and Epic Games. Can companies maintain consciousness? What role does giant multinational corporations like Tencent and Apple play in the geopolitical sphere? Are Fortnite dances going to overtake the petrodollar by 2024? Are we in 9/11 2 or WWIII? We urge everyone to believe in themselves, understand our place in the media pipeline, and focus on what we can control in our immediate.

ALERT: JOIN OUR SCHOOL, NEW CLASSES DROPPING SOON! Please reach out to join the discord for “Constructing the Real” NOW!

If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor atartandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Also! Tell a chill friend about us?? Write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!

Future of Music Coalition Bandcamp statement: https://twitter.com/future_of_music/status/1499096231179661317?s=21

DSA statement condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine: https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/1497736667024683008

Ukraine’s SNL president: https://twitter.com/VeraMBergen/status/1498814410911006723

Episode 114 – Music and Labor 2 w/ Liz Pelly and David Turner

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Episode 114 - Music and Labor 2 w/ Liz Pelly and David Turner
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Support the Union of Musicians & Allied Workers (UMAW) Cuomo protest!! We’re joined by music journalist and DIY angel Liz Pelly and returning angel David Turner. We discuss their work including Liz’s new piece in Real Life “Socialized Streaming: A case for universal music access.” Plus, we each reveal the contents of our high school mix CDs. Leave a pineapple emoji in the review if you made it all the way to the end and heard Darcie’s. Come partake in the classic punk tradition of complaining about art spaces that don’t exist anymore! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia school “Constructing the Real” Also! Write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!

Podcast Overlords: https://thebaffler.com/downstream/podcast-overlords-pelly

Music Rights Private Equity Hell: https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=325051&title+MAD-MONEY:-JACOBSON%27S-MUSIC-SPAC-HITS-WALL-STREET

Episode 58 – Music and Labor with David Turner

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Episode 58 - Music and Labor with David Turner
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Turns our those rebellious rock ‘n’ rollers were scabbing the classical nerds?! Hello everyone! You’re in for a treat! David Turner (@pennyfractions) joins us to discuss the history of musician unions in the United States. David’s newsletter Penny Fractions covers the contemporary music industry and the troubled landscape of streaming platforms, algorithms, and promotion. Please go subscribe to it! We tie historical problems to our contemporary situation, and mention New Jails NYC, the UAW GM strike, and the Chicago teacher’s strike. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com

No New Jails proposal: https://www.nonewjails.nyc/no-new-jails-close-rikers-now-we-keep-us-safe-guide

David’s reading list: The Gold in Tin Pan Alley by Hazel Meyer, Tell Tchaikovsky The News by Michael James Roberts, The Musicians and Petrillo by Robert D. Leiter