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OK and Lucia discuss burnout, survival gigs, the realities of gender presentation, and universal emotions. How does art influence the ruling class? And how do we examine our proximity to wealth, even if we aren’t collecting a living wage from that proximity. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com