Episode 65 - Internet Platforms with Darcie Wilder
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Internet royalty Darcie Wilder joins us to discuss Contrapoints, cancel culture, social capital, data collection, disinformation campaigns, and the futility of media work in the gig economy. She really played all the hits, and it was an absolute delight! For more please check out her column in The Outline. Support us on Patreon to hear the first part of our conversation where we get into juicy gossip, personal stories, and some truly killer food opinions. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
Also someone pay us $$$ to start a video game stream. Dead serious about that. We would kill it.
Happy New Year from A&L x ok.glass!! This is a postmodern free-flowing discussion with nice piano songs in the background. We’re in a weird form fresh off of CATS, 2019 and some stressful holiday stuff. To hear the episode we recorded directly before this (and enter in a chance to win $20) please support us on Patreon. We discuss strategy, electoral politics, local politics, international politics, the politics of mental health, and who should probably be murdered, parody parody parody. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
We originally recorded this episode as a Snackcast, our bonus feed, but liked it too much. Apologies for any munching and crunching, and for the even more causal tone than normal. We discuss working in Chelsea and art fairs as young people, insidious bootstrap mentalities, and the importance of centering marginalized workers. Don’t fall into spectacle mindset, if you must make a banana response please consider the janitorial/service workers that are often forgotten in this discourse (read about their protest in Miami here). If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
Warning that this episode is gets into some heavy allegories, we’re very raw in our feelings. That said, we discuss the latest on Amazon NYC, which despite the AOC spin, is NOT A WIN. We also touch on the latest Art Miami Basel controversy spectacle, and the state of gentrification and unionization. Plus we make a bunch of references to Rick and Morty, The Irishman, and Promare. It’s a postmodern nightmare. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
OK and Lucia discuss burnout, survival gigs, the realities of gender presentation, and universal emotions. How does art influence the ruling class? And how do we examine our proximity to wealth, even if we aren’t collecting a living wage from that proximity. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
We’re joined by podcast legend Leslie Lee III (@leslieleeiii) to discuss the 1976 classic film Marathon Man. Dustin Hoffman plays a young graduate student roped into a high-stakes plot involving US intelligence agents, sadistic Nazis, and millions of dollars in gems. We explore the story’s underlying pro-communist elements and artistic motifs. It’s Struggle Session x Art and Labor!! Get some!! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
Episode 59 - Cartoonists Against Amazon with Michael DeForge
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The beloved Toronto-based artist Michael DeForge (@michael_deforge) joins us in studio to discuss comics, community spaces, and activism. We touch on his newest book, Stunt, as well as Leaving Richard’s Valley, Lose, Thickness, Adventure Time, and snag some info on his rejected pilot for Cartoon Network. Michael also co-authored an open letter to small press festivals urging them to drop Amazon as a sponsor, and is a participant in Toronto’s fight for 15, the campaign against Google’s Sidewalk Labs development, the recent LGBT community action admonishing the Toronto Public Library’s platforming of a transphobic speaker, and more! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor (if you support us on drip, please switch over). Follow us on twitter and instagram.You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
*Come to OK’s panel on Sunday!* Welcome to the episode on Mehrwert aka the Marxist concept of Surplus Value. We read an essay by Diederich Diederichsen, it’s super useful for determining the differing placement of art and artists within the class framework. Read it yourself here, and let us know what you think! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram.You cancontact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
READING - Painting as Theoretical Practice: Althusser and Supports/Surfaces
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Let us read to you! This time an essay by Sami Siegelbaum in Selva Journal. Here is an excerpt: “although historical and dialectical materialism formed the basis of Supports/Surfaces’ theory and practice, it was not ‘art for the people.’ Instead, it was a ‘theoretical and ideological weapon for the petit bourgeois intelligentsia’ who would later join or ally with the working class. This thesis introduced the Maoist emphasis on the re-education of intellectuals into the sphere of French painting, while also acknowledging the limitations of a propagandistic figurative art.” Read the whole piece here, including pictures and footnotes. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram.You cancontact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
Turns our those rebellious rock ‘n’ rollers were scabbing the classical nerds?! Hello everyone! You’re in for a treat! David Turner (@pennyfractions) joins us to discuss the history of musician unions in the United States. David’s newsletter Penny Fractions covers the contemporary music industry and the troubled landscape of streaming platforms, algorithms, and promotion. Please go subscribe to it! We tie historical problems to our contemporary situation, and mention New Jails NYC, the UAW GM strike, and the Chicago teacher’s strike. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram.You cancontact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com
David’s reading list: The Gold in Tin Pan Alley by Hazel Meyer, Tell Tchaikovsky The News by Michael James Roberts, The Musicians and Petrillo by Robert D. Leiter