Episode 30 – The Gas Leak

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Episode 30 - The Gas Leak

The dream team is back to get that goop!!! We talk Anime Marx, Venom, and after a long mental breakdown find hope in the recent wins of the anti-Amazon fight. If this episode is too NYC-centric replace “The L Train” with a local crumbling infrastructure of your choice!! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor or https://d.rip/artandlabor

Episode 29 – New Museum Union

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Episode 29 - New Museum Union

UNIONIZE THE ART WORLD! This week we congratulate members of the New Museum Union’s (@newmuseum_union) bargaining committee Dana Kopel (@decafdana), Lily Bartle (@hole_earth), and Alicia Graziano. They won their vote to officially joined UAW Local 2110 last week! We discuss the conditions that led them to unionize, the inadequacy of liberal feminism, suggestions for other workplaces looking to organize, and the unexpected friendships they made along the way. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor or https://d.rip/artandlabor

NewMuUnion: https://newmuseumunion.org/

Lily in Jacobin: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/01/new-museum-union-uaw-art-bargaining

Martha Rosler: “‘When workers tell you they need a union, then they need a union,’ Ms. Rosler said by telephone. ‘There is no question that the labor movement is what brought us to whatever good spaces we’ve been brought to socially.'” https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/arts/design/union-vote-sparks-debate-at-new-museum.html

Subscribe to Lily’s zine: http://hole.earth/

Decolonize This Place’s video from the Whitney Town Hall: https://twitter.com/decolonize_this/status/1089556316950065153

Episode 28 – Nightlife and Labor Rights with Eric Shorey

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Episode 28 - Nightlife and Labor Rights with Eric Shorey

We’re joined by Eric Shorey (@Eric_Shorey) to discuss the tricky business of wages and performance. We get into the particularities of trying to organize/advocate for better pay from venues, and how different types of performers are pitted against each other. Drag Queens additionally have to structure their nights around an increasingly more mainstream national television show that almost monopolizes drag content. Here’s our brand new Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor

Drag Queens, Labor Rights, and the Cruel Power Dynamics of Gay Nightlife: https://vinepair.com/articles/drag-queens-labor-rights-paid/

‘RuPaul’s Drag Race’ And Its Discontents: What Are The Show’s Effects On Local Drag Queens? https://nylon.com/articles/rupauls-drag-race-effect-local-queens

The Nobodies Watching Wrestling: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBnBe0NLOLk0KqlKs4KiXLg

Model Alliance: https://modelalliance.org/child-labor-legislation-press-conference

Stripper Strike: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nyc-stripper-strike_us_5a73880fe4b01ce33eb11c88

Episode 27 – Local 30 at MoMA PS1

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Art and Labor
Episode 27 - Local 30 at MoMA PS1


More museum unions!! This week we were joined by members of the International Union of Operating Engineers (IUOE) Local 30 at MoMA PS1 (@IUOELocal30) Chris Haag (@allwasalmost), Robin Kaiser-Schatzlein (@robinsreport), and Gary T Murphy. We discuss their modest demand for the same pay as their colleagues at MoMA 53rd street.  Plus: the precarious nature of 1099s, the stagnation of wages in the face of increasing rents, and the variety of expectations placed on art installers.  Support us and get our premium snackcast here: https://d.rip/artandlabor

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A review of Uberland by Alex Rosenblat


A review of Temp by Louis Hyman
Find Chris’ music “NO FAN” here:

Transcript for Episode 26 with Whole Worker

OK: Hi everyone, this is OK Fox. Just wanted to apologize for the really bad audio quality of this episode. We just weren’t prepared to have in-studio and call-in guests at the same time, so we just improvised, and had this really, like, weird room mic, and then recorded it on Skype, so it sounds not great, but it’s a podcast, and it’s audible and it’s a good interview and like, you know, I can say that we’ll – we can release a transcript for it if people are really having trouble hearing it.

So just bear with us, we’re still learning how to deal with guests and figuring all that stuff out. But it’s a great episode, and I hope you guys enjoy it. See you soon.

OK: Hi everybody, welcome to another episode of art and labor, we have a full house tonight, so that’s why the audio is a bit different than normal. I am OK Fox.

LL: And I am Lucia Love. And we’ve got three guests.

OK: Yes, we have three guests today. The theme of the episode is Whole Worker, so that is a group trying to organize the Whole Foods grocery store chain. And in studio we have Matthew,

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Episode 26 – Whole Worker

Art and Labor
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Episode 26 - Whole Worker


A transcript is coming soon! Apologies for this sample rate fiasco, we messed up!  This episode we’re joined by Matthew Hunt (@TheSerpicoSide), Tyler (@fakejohnmackey), and Glamazon (@WholeWorkerWFM) the founding members/social media manager for Whole Worker, a grassroots group working to organize Whole Foods and Amazon workers. Please donate to our show and help us get our shit together: https://d.rip/artandlabor

Whole Workers’ recent demands: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oCfbBW_GZ3VpmoQz9Yo7p_Rw0NHJuMCwtZk9OfY6qzE/edit

Whole Worker Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wholeworkerwfm/

Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren target Amazon over labor practices: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/17/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-target-amazon-over-labor-practices/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8b37e18f9002

Amazon workers strike in other countries: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-com-germany-strike/amazon-workers-strike-in-germany-joining-action-in-spain-and-poland-idUSKBN1K61OY

Journalist Brendan O’Connor is collecting Amazon worker stories: https://twitter.com/_grendan/status/1062737572676493313

John Mackey and Jeff Bezos are both fucking dumbasses: https://www.forbes.com/sites/phillempert/2017/10/17/whole-foods-mackey-versus-whole-foods-amazon-culture/#7166f6205e9d

Episode 25 – International Solidarity

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Art and Labor
Episode 25 - International Solidarity


TWENTY-KNIFE-TEEN IS HERE AND WE’RE IN A SOMBER MOOD! This episode we try to wrap our heads around a couple different international protest movements including the YPG International Academy, Hito Steyerl’s 2004 film “November”, and the Gilets Jaunes. We discuss The United States, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the proliferation of neoliberal imperialism. Support us and get our premium snackcast here: https://d.rip/artandlabor

The New International EP01: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfRXooOcFoo

Hito Steyerl on November: http://transit.berkeley.edu/2005/steyerl/

The film itself: https://vimeo.com/88484604

Hito and Rojava Film Commune: https://www.e-flux.com/journal/86/160968/the-color-of-women-an-interview-with-ypj-commanders-dilovan-kobani-nirvana-ruken-and-zerin/

Duty-Free Art:  https://www.e-flux.com/journal/63/60894/duty-free-art/

A Gift For You!

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A Gift For You!


Please enjoy this special surprise. It’s a tiny little bonus you’ll just have to click on. Happy Holidays! Don’t get lonely without us. See you next year!

Episode 24 – Murray Bookchin

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Art and Labor
Episode 24 - Murray Bookchin


Hello! Turns out “Google Murray Bookchin” is a meme, but uh, do it. If you liked our Ursula K. Le Guin episode you’ll love our new anarchist grandpa! Join us for a discussion of Post-Scarcity Anarchism, ecology, technology, self-determination, and liberation. Also we started a premium podcast about chips and snacks find it at https://d.rip/artandlabor!

Audio version of Post-Scarcity Anarchism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG9HLYm3ZQ4

Debbie Bookchin on Rev Left Radio: https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/the-philosophy-of-murray-bookchin-an-interview-with-debbie-bookchin

Big long interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_jfS4Q-k30


Episode 23 – Neo Yokio is an Anti-Capitalist Masterpiece

Art and Labor
Art and Labor
Episode 23 - Neo Yokio is an Anti-Capitalist Masterpiece


Ezra Koenig, go on Art and Labor! You deserve this big Toblerone! Note: spoilers don’t really start til like 20 minutes in. We went to the anti-Amazon community forum and read a bunch of Bookchin, but instead of discussing either of those things we recap all of Neo Yokio. Please watch this incredible series about excessive wealth and demonic revolution.

good piece of writing about it: https://pome-mag.com/neo-yokio-the-anti-capitalist-revolution/

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