216 - Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE
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This is the Liz Pelly interview for the real heads!! We have a (perhaps brutally) honest discussion about the state of DIY and our extractive relationship with big tech. How do we untangle? Since Silent Barn times we’ve been researching, organizing, and building alternatives. We outline some of them in a fruitful discussion of Liz’s new book outlining the many destructive tendrils of Spotify and the pitfalls of music under capitalism at large. Join UMAW!
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190 - Netflix's One Piece w/ Alex Degen and Alec Robbins
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OK and Sarah are joined by two of our absolute favorite cartoonists Alex Degen and Alec Robbins to discuss One Piece both as a comic😤 and as content😩. Alec’s fantastic thread on the “corporate experiment” that is Netflix’s One Piece prompted this excellent convo on art education, WGA/SAG actions, and flattening of culture that happens online. Alex and OK also endorse interesting live action adaptions that happened via ice and in kabuki. We want ART not YOUTUBE BYPRODUCT. We want DIGNITY not SLOP!! They are trying to feed us BUGS when we need REAL FOOD that will nurture our souls and lift our spirits. Isn’t that what One Piece is truly all about?? If you like us, please consider spreading the good word! Directly sharing our episodes with friends helps defeat the algorithm. And consider joining our patreon to help defeat our brokeness!
Hello!! Welcome back to the fold, sweet lambs, I missed you terribly so…what’s your year been like, kids? Today’s Art and Labor is for the fans, and also the haters, who have neglected to call me even once while I was gone…….this week we’re cutting it up (hard) on how Scientific Management (Taylor’s Version) mysteriously tends to bend society towards child labor, a Rest In Piss Vice send up that ends up being our apologies for going to Death By Audio shows, and a few more clues as to what our jobs actually are for the oldheads developing their A&L iceberg videos. Send me cannolis, I’m dying up here, my people yearn for freedom, we will greet you as liberators!!
To hear our take on Andrew Callaghan and This Places Rules please support us on Patreon. 2022 was hard on your Art and Labor crew- so we wanted to start the new year with the most “le fantastique” thing we could think of, a world of endless possibilities, a place where magic could exist, a place where you can be driven insane with the contradiction of portraying the desire to never age as monstrous while yourself employing a mo cap technique that will absolutely result in older actresses no longer being able to get work as older characters, just their younger selves, or not, who cares, what am I even talking about.
A&L is, historically, staunchly pro-spectacle, so indulge us a little with a fated Avatar waterside chats- What the hell is this Cameron guy’s deal, how does a movie so bad still get Sarah to easily shell out $30 multiple times? How come OK never saw the first one??? Why is Kate Winslet here?? Do you guys think the butterfly fairy wing jellyfish are just like a merchandising thing? If we start actually doing episodes consistently again would yall send us to Disneyland to finally SEE?
177 - One Piece Film Red w/ Sam Branman & August Lipp
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OK enlisted two of his favorite One Piece freaks—fashion designer and DJ/Producer of Str8 to DVDSam Branman, and cartoonist August Lipp—to talk critically about the most popular series on the planet who many (present company included) have enjoyed for 15+ years. Although the movie is a big commercial for a vtuber, it has a lot to offer about the false consciousness and cults of personality technology produces both in and outside of the state. We also discuss the theory crafting industrial complex, the series’ shortfalls when it comes to queer characters, and speculate if the distribution companies have censoring power. Spoilers for both the movie and the current arc of the manga!! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor atartandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Also! Tell a chill friend about us?? Write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!
A message to the people of Bushwig: BREAK THE CHAIN, ANNEX MASPETH. What is this episode? If I recall correctly we discuss how capitalists attempt to resolve what communist art theorist Adam Buttrick calls “the Bad Vibes Contradiction” through crypto, AI, Canva, and other data vultures in the culture industries. Chelsea Manning DJs Nightcore, not Hyperpop, one is the people’s algorithm, the other belongs to the music business. What’s our role in automation, in our own displacement? The prison will not absorb us, we are building up to a break.
Episode 114 - Music and Labor 2 w/ Liz Pelly and David Turner
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Support the Union of Musicians & Allied Workers (UMAW) Cuomo protest!! We’re joined by music journalist and DIY angel Liz Pelly and returning angel David Turner. We discuss their work including Liz’s new piece in Real Life “Socialized Streaming: A case for universal music access.” Plus, we each reveal the contents of our high school mix CDs. Leave a pineapple emoji in the review if you made it all the way to the end and heard Darcie’s. Come partake in the classic punk tradition of complaining about art spaces that don’t exist anymore! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia school “Constructing the Real” Also! Write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!
Episode 107 - Fascist Infighting w/ Darcie Wilder and Sarah Crowe
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?Meet your new hosts, Darcie Wilder and Sarah Crowe!? The four of us discuss the different capitalist and white supremacist factions surrounding the “Stop the Steal” riots at the Capitol. The q supporters, the cops, congress, and tech people all have a role to play in expanding our already draconian surveillance/carceral state. We also discuss the wider conditions that causes to the constant middle class and working class identity crisis in the US and navigate the ongoing weaponization of trauma. If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia’s school “Constructing the Real” Please write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!
2021 is here with a spear (the 1 is a spear). Perfect time for a rebrand! We discuss the CIA’s embrace of new media aesthetics and effort to recruit people from backgrounds historically fucked with by the CIA. There is an effort to emphasize surveillance culture. We discuss how “cyber attacks” are being utilized to justify further murderous interventions overseas. Which art bro is responsible? A net art troll or a Yale MFA? Tho both are insufferable there is no aesthetic safe from recuperation, and as the economic crisis worsens more of us will be forced to take increasingly unethical jobs. Stay tuned for our announcement at the end! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia’s school “Constructing the Real” Please write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!
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Episode 88 - The Four Horsemen of Economic Collapse
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Welcome to the stage Ms. “Show” Bezos!! We watched the congressional antitrust committee lightly prod the four biggest tech company CEOs in the country. Surely the system will be able to hold these monopolies accountable and protect our user data! What could go wrong? Excuse me Mr. Google, how do I open PDF? Between surreal dreams we dip in and out of the doomer fog and try to think about or imagine possible futures. There is a huge eviction crisis on the horizon, and a major confrontation incoming as congress fails to extend unemployment insurance (for now). If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia’s school “Constructing the Real”
